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	<title>Comments on: Tacoma Moment of Zen: 1502 Pacific Ave</title>
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		<title>By: Jimmy B</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This building was at one time owned by my parents. We used to watch the Daffodil parade every spring from a room just above where the Pacific Grill now occupies. It always was a fun filled day. The new owner has done a superb job of bring new life into the building. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This building was at one time owned by my parents. We used to watch the Daffodil parade every spring from a room just above where the Pacific Grill now occupies. It always was a fun filled day. The new owner has done a superb job of bring new life into the building. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Mofo from the Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Mofo from the Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: The effect of the blog world on Tacoma and the brick wall protest. 

Right. I believe you&#039;re referring to an incident that I&#039;m familiar with having read it (unknown to you) on your Tacoma Urbanist blog dated 1/19/08. There is an absurd photo posted of a proposed brick wall near the Washington history museum---an electronic protest of sorts by RR Anderson. Anderson&#039;s montage was amusing, and maybe it helped to sway public opinion---I&#039;m guessing that was his motivation. 

Some images do have the power to  transcend words. But Anderson&#039;s images just like Cysewski&#039;s require interpretation when they&#039;re used to frame an agenda. 

I know that you post photo&#039;s regularly, and whether the image is a idealized neighborhood  or a cup of coffee, the addition of one word or several can alter the purpose of the image. 

I don&#039;t think the practice of shaping public opinion has changed much since 1979. The scale of the effort has certainly increased, maybe because of easy access to computers and the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: The effect of the blog world on Tacoma and the brick wall protest. </p>
<p>Right. I believe you&#8217;re referring to an incident that I&#8217;m familiar with having read it (unknown to you) on your Tacoma Urbanist blog dated 1/19/08. There is an absurd photo posted of a proposed brick wall near the Washington history museum&#8212;an electronic protest of sorts by RR Anderson. Anderson&#8217;s montage was amusing, and maybe it helped to sway public opinion&#8212;I&#8217;m guessing that was his motivation. </p>
<p>Some images do have the power to  transcend words. But Anderson&#8217;s images just like Cysewski&#8217;s require interpretation when they&#8217;re used to frame an agenda. </p>
<p>I know that you post photo&#8217;s regularly, and whether the image is a idealized neighborhood  or a cup of coffee, the addition of one word or several can alter the purpose of the image. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the practice of shaping public opinion has changed much since 1979. The scale of the effort has certainly increased, maybe because of easy access to computers and the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik B.</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I really appreciate the advent of personal computers and especially blogging. I think this innovation has made Tacoma a lot more interesting for people like me who want to seek out ideas and possibly contribute to the community in an informed manner.&lt;/i&gt;

The issue of the effect of the blog world on Tacoma is often a topic of discussion with a endless supply of opinions.

I am hopeful it is a good thing.  It certainly has brought alot more transparancy to city government.

Certainly bizzare proposals like the brick wall in front of the bridge of glass get alot more attention sooner.  Yet, the long term effect on the health of the city will have to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I really appreciate the advent of personal computers and especially blogging. I think this innovation has made Tacoma a lot more interesting for people like me who want to seek out ideas and possibly contribute to the community in an informed manner.</i></p>
<p>The issue of the effect of the blog world on Tacoma is often a topic of discussion with a endless supply of opinions.</p>
<p>I am hopeful it is a good thing.  It certainly has brought alot more transparancy to city government.</p>
<p>Certainly bizzare proposals like the brick wall in front of the bridge of glass get alot more attention sooner.  Yet, the long term effect on the health of the city will have to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mofo from the Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Mofo from the Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E.B.: &quot;From what I hear1979 was about the low point [most desolate].&quot;  &quot;In your opinion Mofo, what year[?]...&quot;

I worked downtown from 1976-82 in what is now the Matador Restaurant Building. In 1979 I was a 23 year old journeyman printer-top of the union wage scale-college educated, bachelor apartment, 3 cars, 2 motorcycles,  (Jack Daniels, women and song).

Cysewski&#039;s photos don&#039;t reveal much about the local population and social structures of the time. Many people then as now were very concerned about Tacoma&#039;s architecture. 

But for a lot of people then as now, who were quite well-off financially, the condition of downtown was just something that would eventually change and hopefully for the better. 

I really appreciate the advent of personal computers and especially blogging. I think this innovation has made Tacoma a lot more interesting for people like me who want to seek out ideas and possibly contribute to the community in an informed manner. 

In 1979 people weren&#039;t any less sophisticated in terms of problem  solving and resolution. 

Now there&#039;s just a whole lot more of information and opinions from which to formulate propositions. For bad or  good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.B.: &#8220;From what I hear1979 was about the low point [most desolate].&#8221;  &#8220;In your opinion Mofo, what year[?]&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I worked downtown from 1976-82 in what is now the Matador Restaurant Building. In 1979 I was a 23 year old journeyman printer-top of the union wage scale-college educated, bachelor apartment, 3 cars, 2 motorcycles,  (Jack Daniels, women and song).</p>
<p>Cysewski&#8217;s photos don&#8217;t reveal much about the local population and social structures of the time. Many people then as now were very concerned about Tacoma&#8217;s architecture. </p>
<p>But for a lot of people then as now, who were quite well-off financially, the condition of downtown was just something that would eventually change and hopefully for the better. </p>
<p>I really appreciate the advent of personal computers and especially blogging. I think this innovation has made Tacoma a lot more interesting for people like me who want to seek out ideas and possibly contribute to the community in an informed manner. </p>
<p>In 1979 people weren&#8217;t any less sophisticated in terms of problem  solving and resolution. </p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s just a whole lot more of information and opinions from which to formulate propositions. For bad or  good.</p>
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		<title>By: tressie</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>tressie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See right there is The Attitude......---&gt;Thankfully, Stephen Cysewski captured Tacoma at the lowest of lows on 35mm film for posterity. &lt;----
Lowest of lows?
Do you not realize people lived here?
Obviously, they musta liked it somewhat.....or else they&#039;da fixed it up. And they did. Homegrown Tacomans. 
But no, that wasn&#039;t Tacoma at it&#039;s most unkempt. Norton Clapp has a lot to answer for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See right there is The Attitude&#8230;&#8230;&#8212;&gt;Thankfully, Stephen Cysewski captured Tacoma at the lowest of lows on 35mm film for posterity. &lt;&#8212;-<br />
Lowest of lows?<br />
Do you not realize people lived here?<br />
Obviously, they musta liked it somewhat&#8230;..or else they&#8217;da fixed it up. And they did. Homegrown Tacomans.<br />
But no, that wasn&#8217;t Tacoma at it&#8217;s most unkempt. Norton Clapp has a lot to answer for.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That’s the bus stop from where my two classmates Paul Williams and Mike White and I waited every morning to catch a ride up Pac Ave to Stewart Junior High back in ‘69-’70.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting. Thanks for the memories.

In your opinion Mofo, what year was downtown Tacoma most desolate?  When do you think it hit its low point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That’s the bus stop from where my two classmates Paul Williams and Mike White and I waited every morning to catch a ride up Pac Ave to Stewart Junior High back in ‘69-’70.</i></p>
<p>Interesting. Thanks for the memories.</p>
<p>In your opinion Mofo, what year was downtown Tacoma most desolate?  When do you think it hit its low point?</p>
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		<title>By: Mofo from the Hood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mofo from the Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That photo is almost too funny. That&#039;s the bus stop from where my two classmates Paul Williams and Mike White and I waited every morning to catch a ride up Pac Ave to Stewart Junior High back  in &#039;69-&#039;70.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That photo is almost too funny. That&#8217;s the bus stop from where my two classmates Paul Williams and Mike White and I waited every morning to catch a ride up Pac Ave to Stewart Junior High back  in &#8217;69-&#8217;70.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Bjornson</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Bjornson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thankfully, Stephen Cysewski captured Tacoma at the lowest of lows on 35mm film for posterity. We’ll be featuring one of his images periodically to keep us in Zen. Here’s one to reflect on as you head over to Pacific Grill for dinner.&lt;/i&gt;

Cysewski&#039;s photo series is amazing.  Downtown was almost abandoned in its entirety.   Even the dive bars were empty.  From what I hear, 1979 was about the low point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thankfully, Stephen Cysewski captured Tacoma at the lowest of lows on 35mm film for posterity. We’ll be featuring one of his images periodically to keep us in Zen. Here’s one to reflect on as you head over to Pacific Grill for dinner.</i></p>
<p>Cysewski&#8217;s photo series is amazing.  Downtown was almost abandoned in its entirety.   Even the dive bars were empty.  From what I hear, 1979 was about the low point.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.tacomasun.com/2008/02/22/tacoma-moment-of-zen-1502-pacific-ave/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the folks over at Tacoma Then and Now (http://tacomathenandnow.org/)were working on that. Anyone heard from those guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the folks over at Tacoma Then and Now (<a href="http://tacomathenandnow.org/)were" rel="nofollow">http://tacomathenandnow.org/)were</a> working on that. Anyone heard from those guys?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.  

Looking forward to seeing more.  

How about a before and after pic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.  </p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing more.  </p>
<p>How about a before and after pic?</p>
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		<title>By: RR Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great bananas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great bananas</p>
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